magic quiver
Well, we have the Quiver of Ehlonna in the DMG that'll hold 60 arrows, 18 javelins, and 6 spears.But...I don;t care about all them thrown weapons - I just want lots of arrows. Like, say, 200 or more....
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It really depends. I'm not sure about what item exactly you are talking about (the quiver that makes unlimited arrows, or the quiver that makes unlimitted arrows that last for 1 minute and then...
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Quote:*by the logic of the underlying magic*, Which we made up, whole cloth. Which we can, and do, twist to justify whatever we want. The alter at which we worship is called Game Balance, not Pretend...
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Which we made up, whole cloth. Which we can, and do, twist to justify whatever we want. The alter at which we worship is called Game Balance, not Pretend Magical Logic That We Make Up As We Go...
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Quote:All important aspects of pricing, however, are encapsulated in the one, Holiest of Holy words, utility.Makes magic too much of the most efficient tool possible to me. I think magic is more than...
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Quote:So you're saying that the principles of spell level and caster level mean nothing to you, and have no basis in anything? There IS logic to parts of the magic system; a 1st level spell DOES have...
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Quote:If a quiver of endless arrows turns out, *by the logic of the underlying magic*, to be even, say, 2-3 times more expensive than a Heward's or quiver of Ehlonna, what I'm saying is...LET IT.That,...
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Quote:Tiburon: If a quiver of endless arrows turns out, *by the logic of the underlying magic*, to be even, say, 2-3 times more expensive than a Heward's or quiver of Ehlonna, what I'm saying is...LET...
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Quote:Strange that you say you agree with it, actually, Zaraky, because your later comments seem to put you in the opposite camp.It's more that I don't think the quiver turns out that way, nor that...
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Quote:It's not more magically taxing, or more complex (because making in anything spin in circles could be about as complex potentially).Could be. Maybe it utilizes a natural magical affinity to...
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Quote:Let's look at it this way. You have one scale that tells you exactly how much power you *should* be able to buy with an amount of gold. A pure utility-based pricing scheme would simply find the...
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If you want the quiver to produce a temporary arrow, whenever you need one, wouldn't that be more like a Quickened cantrip, the equivalent of a 4th level spell? That would be necessary for iterative...
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It wouldn't need to be quickened for the same reason that a heward's handy haversack doesn't need to be a chest on the ethereal plane that only lasts for a little over 2 months before it loses all...
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Quote:If you want the quiver to produce a temporary arrow, whenever you need one, wouldn't that be more like a Quickened cantrip, the equivalent of a 4th level spell? That would be necessary for...
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Let's look at it this way. You have one scale that tells you exactly how much power you *should* be able to buy with an amount of gold. A pure utility-based pricing scheme would simply find the...
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So what you do is find out how much the mage prices by the day and have him cast many walls of stone, and avoid having to pay the craftsman or materials. Cheaper, and faster, both. Win/Win.Such...
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The power only matters can make consistency problems with campaigns. If you look at things for efficiency and comparative complexity of spells it also provides another layer of balance that makes...
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Quote:This is true in RAW, but is, IMO, a flaw in considering the system. There *should* be a concept of complexity, and I have no problem with saying that some effects like teleporting at all, planar...
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So what you do is find out how much the mage prices by the day and have him cast many walls of stone, and avoid having to pay the craftsman or materials. Cheaper, and faster, both. Win/Win.They don't...
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Quote:they charge by the spell, as per the Spellcasting Services chart. Actually, that's just one option. Mages in employ of the crown, on retainer, etc are paid in other ways. For example, a mage...
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